This article was released by AP today and it reflects the attitude of the current administration.

WASHINGTON, DC - President Barack Obama says that while he's dedicated to expanding homosexual rights, many Americans still cling to what he calls "worn arguments and old attitudes."

At a White House celebration of Gay Pride Month, Obama said he hopes to persuade all Americans to accept homosexuality. ""There are good and decent people in this country who don't yet fully embrace their gay brothers and sisters -- not yet," said the president. "That's why I've spoken about these issues -- not just in front of you -- but in front of unlikely audiences, in front of African-American church members."

Obama acknowledged that many Americans still disapprove of homosexuality. "There are still fellow citizens, perhaps neighbors or even family members and loved ones, who still hold fast to worn arguments and old attitudes," he stated.

What was President Obama referring to when he knocked 'old attitudes' regarding homosexuality?

He added that Congress should repeal what Obama referred to as "the so-called Defense of Marriage Act" -- and that his administration is working to pass a hate crimes bill and to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy on homosexuals in the military.

The audience at the White House ceremony included Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson and other homosexual clergy. Obama introduced Robinson as a "special friend."

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For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. 1 Tim 2:5 (U-NASB)

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

Romans 1:26-27

If God doesn't approve of it neither do I. It is not hate to have concern for people's soul and tell them they are going to hell if they don't change. In fact if we hated them we would keep our mouths shut.

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True, brother Lee, true. This thing in the Episcopal church, Gene Robinson and the multitude of other instances in that body is interesting because it shows the logical consequence of setting aside God's authority, which that denomination (and the others) did on day one.

The lesson shouldn't be lost on any of our denominational friends. If people continue to deny the authority of the scriptures, this is the consequence.

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Here is a follow up on Obama's speech to the Gay & Lesbin group from an evangelical. I read another artical today about a poll that shows Obama's popularity and issues are declining rapidly.

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Ken Hutcherson, senior pastor of Antioch Bible Church in Washington state, says it is "a shame" that the president is "supporting what destroys the family."

"There's absolutely no truth in anything he said, from beginning to the end," says Pastor Hutcherson. "There is no such thing as [a] biblical stance for homosexuality, if you use the Bible. If you want to use any other denomination, feel free -- but where I stand is...biblical; it is marriage between one man [and] one woman, and that is the relationship, heterosexual, that is ordained, blessed, and called by God."

In his talk, Obama acknowledged that many Americans still disapprove of homosexuality. "There are still fellow citizens, perhaps neighbors or even family members and loved ones, who still hold fast to worn arguments and old attitudes," he stated. (See related article) Hutcherson says those comments demonstrate the president has contempt for more than just conservative Christians.

"I think this president has a disdain for anyone who disagrees with anything about him -- don't just limit it to Christians and conservatives," he remarks. "Brother, this man doesn't like anyone who doesn't think he's the smartest man in the world."

Hutcherson says until conservative Christians make their small voice a dominating one, there is nothing that will stop President Obama from pushing for the legalization of same-sex "marriage."

Wow, enough said there!!!

Thanks for shareing this info. Tim,

Scott

When I read about all the evil that is so fast becoming entrenched in our country, I think of Thomas Jefferson's statement about how there should be a revolution in each generation. Though I won't be taking up arms against our government since that is forbidden by God, I look with longing for the day God allows a righteous group to seize power using whatever means the Lord deems feasible. My fear, though, is that when (not if) we are overtaken, it will not be a rightous group, but rather a wicked group who will rule us with an iron fist for the purpose of judgement, much like Israel of old.

In whatever the outcome may be, may the Lord be glorified.

Sometimes I wish I could ask them sometimes: Is living like you want to instead of obeying God worth spending eternity in hell.

I think that is a very powerful question, worth asking.

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Antioch Bible Church? What is that? A lot of "preachers" will say anything they think will get them accepted by members of the church. That doesn't mean they're preaching the truth. It just means they'll say anything to get people to accept them.

I don't mean to be mean, but shouldn't we be reading what the Bible says, instead of what somebody in some denominational body said?

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"that in all things he might have the preeminence." Colossians 1:18

It appears that the Lutherans are following the lead of the Episcopalians:

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For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. 1 Tim 2:5 (U-NASB)

We just had our LGBT training at work. For those of you who aren't hip on the latest acronyms that stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bi-Sexual, and Transgender. Companies have had this stuff shoved down their throats and threatened with lawsuits that they now must utilize resourses to train employees on tolerance. Ours was complete with skits and everything. You guys sure missed out!

Not only that but we all have to pay extra into insurance premiums in order to support the aids ridden "domestic partners" these days. It confounds me that our country has bought into this sinful behavior in this manner.

Bill, I've used the very thing you quoted to my advantage when speaking to those who believe one church is as good as another. Most of those at least professing to be christian will still acknowledge that homosexuality is wrong. I simply point out religions like the Lutherans that embrace homosexuality and it at least gets them to thinking about the "church of your choice."

I don't mean to be antagonistic, but how can a Christian undergo sodomite tolerance training? One must keep oneself unspotted from the world. I know we must provide for our families, but the line must be drawn somewhere. I already have a plan in place for my newspaper. I will not hire nor endorse a homosexual, nor print their "news" of a wedding, adoption, etc.

Come out and be separate, saith the Lord.

I realize what I'm saying will not be popular, but as Peter said, "We must obay God rather than men" and as Paul said, we must "touch not the unclean thing."

I believe that you are exactly right! However, if you or I simply stated, "The Bible says...." we could not even be quoted in the local papers (that usually have a limited coverage area) much less the National scene. Unfortunately, the worldly majority have no concept of what a Christian church really is about.

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Next, we will have to sit through classes teaching us to accept other sexual perversions.

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It will be interesting to see if any of those tolerating homosexuality may demand an apology from Heaven for Sodom and Gomorrah!

Haven't you heard, Romans chapter one has nothing to do with homosexuality! They claim we have got it all wrong. Some go so far as to say Jesus was a homosexual.

Crazy,
Don

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They don't figure it ever happened.

Joe, I don't disagree with your sentiments and I'm glad you have a plan for your business. Christians are forced to live in the world but not be of the world. However, I've not had a job yet where the the employers adopted completely biblical practices, and you're right, a christian does have to earn a living in order to provide for our families. Let's not forget that homosexuality is a sin just like an other. To apply this same reasoning in regards to all sin a christian wouldn't be able to work anywhere...except for possibly your newspaper. Consider some of the professions of men in the New Testament: fishermen, carpenters, tentmakers, ect. Any one of these today would involve being around sin - cursing, homosexuatlity, adultery, telling lies. In fact, I know our preacher was recently lied to so I guess he can't be a preacher.

My employer wasn't asking for anyone to condone the activities. In fact, they made it clear that the weren't asking anyone to compromise their beliefs (for fear of lawsuits from the religious folks perhaps?). The message was don't make a big deal about it at work. I can call a sinner or go by their house after work.

I don't mean to dismiss what you are saying but if you will stop and think about it there really isn't anyplace a christian can work and not be subject to sinners around them.

I haven't been through any sensitvity training such as what you mention, so I don't know much about it except for what I read.

Being around sin is one thing. Just today I had a girl come in with an ad for a baby born out of wedlock. I ran it. It's part of life. But had she asked me to glorify the illegitimacy, forget it.

There's a difference in being around sin and condoning it. Would Paul have made a tent for a drunk? He probably did on a regular basis. But would he have made one for a brothel knowingly? I don't think so.

When we are forced to sit through something and or sign a piece of paper saying we condone something sinful, I have a problem with that unless I can object. I don't mistreat anyone and yes, I have sold ads to homosexuals for their businesses. I treat them as good as anyone else. But I shouldn't have to accept their sinful behavior.

It just seems to me as if there are times we must draw the line. If more people stood up, then we would have less of their stuff happening. I'm sure I've run off business with my hard editorials, but I must take a stand for morality.

It may be, not so distant in the future, that the reverse will need to take place to some extent. Employers will need to starting considering the need to have some "training" on how not to offend Christians.

Kindly,
Don

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Being in Austin Texas with it's large homosexual community means that on occasion we are visited by those who are part of that community. We open our doors to them and then kindly open the Bible with them (2 Timothy 3:16). We do not approve of their sin anymore than we would of other types of sin. When the opportunity arises we look for ways to teach them out of their sinful lifestyle.

It may be, that in some workplaces, the business relationships and business friendships that arise may open the door to teaching at a later point.

While not a homosexual, I was at one point lost in my sin (Romans 3:23) and I am glad that a business friend invited me to come visit the congregation they attended. The rest as they say is history.

Kindly,
Don

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It would be interesting for a school administration to put that together since they can't mention God.

I hear that!

"We are here today to talk about something we cant say and about the one, whose name we cant mention, they believe in. These people, the ones we can't say, think there is someone, whose name we can't mention, is their, we can't tell you what he is to them...."

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Yup.

Somehow, I don't see that happening. I think that will happen when the NAAWP is recognized as a civil rights organization and when reverse racism isn't considered reverse anymore.

Oh, and when the Pope turns Southern Baptist.