Thank you again Don for being kind and patient with me

As for the name of our church, to name it Christ the King is Scriptural because clearly He is the king, but I see what you're saying...I"ll have to study further, but as of now the Lord has not layed this on my heart as wrong at all....I"m just being honest.

as for salvation...could you show me the thread that talks about the thief? I"m not understanding. Eph.1:13-14 says that we are included in Christ when we hear and believe the Gospel of salvation. By believing we are marked with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit. ...I understand that Baptism is a MUST but shouldn't we believe those who surrender to God in the last hours are saved? What about all who never even hear the Gospel?? What about all the children who die hours / days after birth?? It's one thing to hear and reject, it's quite another to not have an opportunity . I need more insight please.

As for miracles...I just can't get still in my Spirit to agree with you for some reason. I haven't studied it completely yet, but form the time I have studied I just can't gather your thoughts on it. But even so...if there are miracles today or not, this question does not injure my salvation. Salvation is the one we MUST get right!
God is very much alive in myself as well as other members of the church I attend...I have no doubts at all that this is where the Lord wills me to be. My Spirit is very peaceful on this note.
But I will never close my ears to teachings...How ignorant I would be to say "I"m right and you're wrong"...I must follow the example of those in Berea, the Bereans who listened to Paul teach at night and then went back to SEARCH Scripture themselves to make sure it was truth I will continue to study...

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Charm is deceptive, and beauty does not last; but a woman who fears the Lord will be greatly praised. PROV.31:30

And so Lord, I ask you... "Point out anything in me that offends you and lead me along the path of everlasting life." Psalms 139:24

thank you Robert...good advice indeed. If I were to rely on my own understanding I wouldn't be studying so hard...I ALWAYS want to study for the truth, thank you for your words.

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Charm is deceptive, and beauty does not last; but a woman who fears the Lord will be greatly praised. PROV.31:30

And so Lord, I ask you... "Point out anything in me that offends you and lead me along the path of everlasting life." Psalms 139:24

Not a problem. We all need time to grow. I was where you are today once. I want to answer some of the things you said. I will just answer them honestly, straight forward and with scripture. Please do not read what I am saysing as being mean or that I am angry toward you. I just want to share the truth.

Rob makes a good point about the heart (previous post). There are those who stay in their error because their heart tells them to. Paul makes it clear that we are to be lead by the word of God 2 Timothy 3:16. Being lead by our feelings (heart) is called subjectiveism. It is a belief based not on what the Bible says but on how we "feel". The danger with this is that it proves every single error and every single doctrine of man right. You see the Muslim can say, "I know Mohamed is the way to salvation because I feel it in my heart." The Buddhist can say, "I know Buddha's teachings are the way to go because I feel it in my heart." I don't believe Jesus is the Son of God and my savior because of what I feel, but because of what the Word of God teaches (John 20:31).

Sure, here it is:
http://www.bibletruthforums.com/bapt....html#post6854

As for children, the Bible does not teach the doctrine of "original sin" so they are not in need of being baptized. The Holy Spirit is given at baptism (Acts 2:38) as taught by Jesus in John 3:5. When one is saved they are "sealed".

As for those who "surrender to God in the last hours" who am I to change what God has commanded? If he has said one MUST be born of water and spirit (John 3:5) what right do I have to teach anything but this?

Then your spirit is not in agreement with the Word of God. Which one do you think is right, you or the word of God? We also have a thread on miracles that teaches what they Bible says on this topic.

This is how Satan works, he deceives people into thinking they are in a right relationship with God when they are not. James says in James 1:22 that we should not just listen to the word, and so deceive ourselves, we should do what it says". How can listening to the word deceive us? When we just listen and do not obey what the word teaches we are deceived into thinking we are in a right relationship with God when we are not. All the doctrines of man and all the denominations will be "uprooted" by God. That means they will be destroyed (Matthew 15:13). We need to make sure we are in sound doctrine (2 Timothy 1:13) so what we believe will not be destroyed.


I am very glad to hear this because I want very much for you to become a part of the church of Christ and have your sins washed away and be added to the Lord's Church by God himself (Acts 2:47, Acts 22:16, Ephesians 1:7).

Take your time and study the scripture that has been shared. We are hear to study .

Kindly offered for you to consider,
Don

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Don Gelles,
Preacher, Church of Christ in Hyde Park
Austin, Texas
www.hydeparkcoc.org

I heard a person on Fox News just this morning talking about how Palin was a "Christian". It just goes to show you that even news reporters can get the gospel plan of salvation wrong. To be fair, they consider everyone who "accepts Jesus" as a Christian.

Kindly,
Don

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Don Gelles,
Preacher, Church of Christ in Hyde Park
Austin, Texas
www.hydeparkcoc.org

You are right , but it is better someone with her beliefs, than a Muslim, or an athiest.

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If we live in Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Gal. 5.25 NJKV

The interesting thing is, Muslims and Atheists can each have excellent moral values. But like Palin, lost is lost. All of them are in need of Jesus (Acts 4:12).

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Don Gelles,
Preacher, Church of Christ in Hyde Park
Austin, Texas
www.hydeparkcoc.org

I meant for our president.

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If we live in Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Gal. 5.25 NJKV

Yes, but we...in the church of Christ, are guided by the scriptures, and only the scriptures. We do not accept the theories of man as our doctrine.
The faith was once for all delivered unto us...anything else is not the word of God.

I am afraid there with be many more, who believe they are saved, that will be "quite surprised" at who will not enter into heaven!

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If we live in Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Gal. 5.25 NJKV

I believe that the book we call the Bible is the word of God, and that is why I am on this forum, with those of like precious faith. Many are coming here to attempt to force their religion on us. If I had believed in Catholocism, I would have joined a Catholic forum.
Did you come to learn from the members here, or to attempt to indoctrinate us in your religion ?

I am sorry...but I find your picture offensive!

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If we live in Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Gal. 5.25 NJKV

Why did you copy my "Okey Dokey" ???? Not a very mature thing to do!

BTW, a true Christian would remove things that are offensive.

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If we live in Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Gal. 5.25 NJKV

:Now I see that you are "copying and pasting" all your same post on other threads.
We used to have a saying about that...It was," Monkey see, monkey do".

Don, this was said to "Terry' , not to you.

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If we live in Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Gal. 5.25 NJKV

The simple point is this...ANYONE not in the church that Christ purchased with His blood is not a Christian. And if someone would say otherwise, I simply ask to prove their doctrine from God's Word...but expect me to be like a Berean!

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Romans 16:16 1 Thess. 5:17 1 Thess. 5:22 1 Tim. 6:12 2 Tim 2:15

Heres the scary part, now that Obama has won let me show you a video that saids alot of his real beliefs

"Obama Admits Muslim Faith"

either he goofed, or he meant what he said and tried to cover it up, I can't see Obama, being the type of speaker he is could make such a goof.

but just something to note, is it fact or not? got me, but its something we need to pray about it

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Your Brother in Christ Will