Christian Forum - Bible Forum - Christian Religion Bible Study Forum - BibleTruthForums.com Christian Religion Web Site
The Preacher's Files
Apologetics Press
The Gospel of Christ
Site For The Lord
 
 

Go Back   Christian Forum - Bible Forum - Christian Religion Bible Study Forum - BibleTruthForums.com > Bible Truth Study Discussions > Denominationalism

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-29-08, 01:51 PM
D. White's Avatar
D. White D. White is offline
Servant of Christ
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 450
What does the Bible say vs...Baptist doctrine?

Baptist: They believe that men are not baptized in order to be saved but because they are saved already.

God's Word: John 6:44-45; Romans 10:17; John 8:24; Hebrews 11:6; Luke 13:3; Acts 17:30; Matthew 10:32; Romans 10:9-10; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; 22:16; 1 Corinthians 15:58
__________________
Romans 16:16 1 Thess. 5:17 1 Thess. 5:22 1 Tim. 6:12 2 Tim 2:15
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-29-08, 01:54 PM
D. White's Avatar
D. White D. White is offline
Servant of Christ
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 450
Re: What does the Bible say vs...Baptist doctrine?

Baptists: Observe the ordinance of the Lord’s Supper, or communion; many congregations do so on the first Sunday of each month. They interpret this as a memorial experience.

God's Word: Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 11:23-25; 1 Corinthians 16:1-2; 2 Corinthians 9:6-7; Ephesians 5:18-19; Colossians 3:16; Philippians 4:6-7; 1 Timothy 2:8; Acts 2:42; 2 Timothy 2:2
__________________
Romans 16:16 1 Thess. 5:17 1 Thess. 5:22 1 Tim. 6:12 2 Tim 2:15
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-08, 03:59 PM
Cody Mac Cody Mac is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 11
Re: What does the Bible say vs...Baptist doctrine?

I was raised in a baptise church and that is about all that is baptise about it is the name. More and more people are just reading the Bible and actually asking for divine understanding vs. picking up something a man has wrote and trying to understand via men. Um Romans say that whosoever shall call upon the Lord shall be saved. That is simply all you have to do and then the Bible tells us our duties and how we should live. Personally I believe denomination is a divider and needs to be done away with and the christian people should stand united under God. Where God is so shall there be liberty.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-08, 04:19 PM
Steven Rasberry's Avatar
Steven Rasberry Steven Rasberry is online now
Teacher
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,025
Re: What does the Bible say vs...Baptist doctrine?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody Mac View Post
I was raised in a baptise church and that is about all that is baptise about it is the name. More and more people are just reading the Bible and actually asking for divine understanding vs. picking up something a man has wrote and trying to understand via men. Um Romans say that whosoever shall call upon the Lord shall be saved. That is simply all you have to do and then the Bible tells us our duties and how we should live. Personally I believe denomination is a divider and needs to be done away with and the christian people should stand united under God. Where God is so shall there be liberty.
Cody,
When you call upon the name of the Lord, you are calling upon His authority. That is what that means.

What did Jesus, in His authority as the Christ, tell us to do to have our sins taken away?

Agreed, the very word denomination means a piece or the whole. It by definition is a divider. We are to be united in the Word.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-08, 04:54 PM
D. White's Avatar
D. White D. White is offline
Servant of Christ
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 450
Re: What does the Bible say vs...Baptist doctrine?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody Mac View Post
I was raised in a baptise church and that is about all that is baptise about it is the name. More and more people are just reading the Bible and actually asking for divine understanding vs. picking up something a man has wrote and trying to understand via men. Um Romans say that whosoever shall call upon the Lord shall be saved. That is simply all you have to do and then the Bible tells us our duties and how we should live. Personally I believe denomination is a divider and needs to be done away with and the christian people should stand united under God. Where God is so shall there be liberty.
Liberty to do as you please? This is the same thinking that got mankind in trouble in the beginning...choosing to eat of the tree (liberty), thinking of nothing but evil and doing what they wanted (liberty)...and how many times did Israel take liberty with God??...and I haven't even got to the New Testament yet!

You contradict yourself, sir. You stick with one verse in Romans and that is it, you say. If that is the case, live your life as you want and wait until death or Judgement Day (whichever comes first) and then call upon the Lord and you will be saved...that is what you might as well tell people with your logic of thinking.

Standing united under God is adibing by His ways and not having liberty to do as you sih but as He wishes ONLY. About the only thing you stated that is true is that denominations need to be done away with and all should be added to the ONE church that Christ began in the beginning, but that won't happen until all begin to see the Word for its truth and follow it...not adding to it or taking one verse and saying this is all I have to do. In other words, heed 2 Timothy 2:15.
__________________
Romans 16:16 1 Thess. 5:17 1 Thess. 5:22 1 Tim. 6:12 2 Tim 2:15
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 04-07-08, 11:35 PM
Cody Mac Cody Mac is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 11
Re: What does the Bible say vs...Baptist doctrine?

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty.

That is where I got where God is so shall there be Liberty. If a group of people live on their Godly foundation and morals described in the Bible then there will be liberty which means freedom. I did not talk about disobeying God, Adam and Eve had free will and they chose to eat of the fruit. Freedom was not the cause of them eating of the fruit and disobeying God is not rightfully called Liberty.

I also did NOT mean that just asking to be saved was all you had to do. I have taught sunday school lessons on the work that must come after evenwhen salvation is obtained to enter into the kingdom of God.

For the body without spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:26

Sometimes I am rush with time as I was before. I cannot get all I want to say out. Next time I would appreciate some respect as I would give you and atleast come and ask me what I meant before assuming you know what I believe.

When I quote that verse I was wanting to point out that you do not have to do stuff like sacrifice animals anymore. Or confess our sins to a Priest. And obviously you have to WANT to give up a sinful life and live for Christ, you have to be sincere and really want to be saved and to not live that life again I just thought it would kinda be understood and I wouldnt have to type it out.
__________________
James 4:14.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 04-08-08, 01:26 AM
D. White's Avatar
D. White D. White is offline
Servant of Christ
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 450
Re: What does the Bible say vs...Baptist doctrine?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody Mac View Post
2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty.

That is where I got where God is so shall there be Liberty. If a group of people live on their Godly foundation and morals described in the Bible then there will be liberty which means freedom. I did not talk about disobeying God, Adam and Eve had free will and they chose to eat of the fruit. Freedom was not the cause of them eating of the fruit and disobeying God is not rightfully called Liberty.

I also did NOT mean that just asking to be saved was all you had to do. I have taught sunday school lessons on the work that must come after evenwhen salvation is obtained to enter into the kingdom of God.

For the body without spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:26

Sometimes I am rush with time as I was before. I cannot get all I want to say out. Next time I would appreciate some respect as I would give you and atleast come and ask me what I meant before assuming you know what I believe.

When I quote that verse I was wanting to point out that you do not have to do stuff like sacrifice animals anymore. Or confess our sins to a Priest. And obviously you have to WANT to give up a sinful life and live for Christ, you have to be sincere and really want to be saved and to not live that life again I just thought it would kinda be understood and I wouldnt have to type it out.
You stated liberty and that was all you gave. The way you left it, it was as if people had liberty, period. TO worship as one chooses and God doen't leave us ignorant as He wishes to be worshipped.

Note...if you need more time to post, then wait until you can respond fully as you would like. When I post, I try to make sure I have sufficient time to get out my entire meaning so that nothing is misunderstood.

You really need to take that one verse and expound on it a little more with references...let us breakdown the entire scripture with looking at other scriptures that will let the Bible proove itself...

The Lord — Christ (2 Cor. 3:14, 2 Cor. 3:16; 2 Cor. 4:5).

Is that Spirit — is THE Spirit, namely, that Spirit spoken of in 2Co_3:6,

Where the Spirit of the Lord is — in a man’s “heart” (2 Cor. 3:15; Rom. 8:9, Rom. 8:10).

there is liberty —(read John 8:36). “There,” and there only. Such cease to be slaves to the letter, which they were while the veil was on their heart. We are free to serve God in the Spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus (Phil. 3:3): they have no longer the spirit of bondage, but of free sonship (Rom. 8:15; Gal. 4:7). That is where liberty is...not just where a group gets together, but within a heart of a true believer and follower. The liberty is given to us so that we are free from bondage...and free to choose to follow or not.

Also, (in bold) you stated that all you had to do is call on the name of the Lord and quoted scripture as if that was all you needed to do and in more than one place here on this site. You never stated until NOW there was more.
__________________
Romans 16:16 1 Thess. 5:17 1 Thess. 5:22 1 Tim. 6:12 2 Tim 2:15
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 04-08-08, 01:35 AM
Cody Mac Cody Mac is offline
New Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 11
Re: What does the Bible say vs...Baptist doctrine?

I totally agree with what you say, totally. Um I assumed that it would be understood that there is work you have to do also. I dont know how to explain what I am thinking. Ok for instance if you take a speech class or write a paper to a group of people then you have to take in your audience. I took in that we were christians and that we would each own a Bible and would know the rest? Get what I am saying? I posted that and just that thinking that people if they did not understand would look into it more via going to their Bible. Um like me if I see something I do not understand that you people post then I go and look it up and try to look at it from your perspective and then try and study more on it before posting a comment. I try to understand if not from your perspective in agreement with you or my post will be how I understand and take it and with hopes to come to a meeting point. Sometimes I forget that not everyone will function like me and assume they will when I get carried away in the spur of the moment.
__________________
James 4:14.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 04-08-08, 01:51 AM
D. White's Avatar
D. White D. White is offline
Servant of Christ
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 450
Re: What does the Bible say vs...Baptist doctrine?

If they go to their Bible, they will see that there is more than just calling on the name of the Lord...and they will see it by command AND example (including baptism).
__________________
Romans 16:16 1 Thess. 5:17 1 Thess. 5:22 1 Tim. 6:12 2 Tim 2:15
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 04-09-08, 10:40 AM
D. White's Avatar
D. White D. White is offline
Servant of Christ
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 450
Re: What does the Bible say vs...Baptist doctrine?

If anyone wants to know about more than just calling on the name of the Lord to be saved, maybe a verse they should take a look at is Acts 22:16 and take it in the oreder it is said...don't try to move the words around to fit what you want to believe and say.

It is simple to understand what it means as it is...

Act 22:16 - And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
__________________
Romans 16:16 1 Thess. 5:17 1 Thess. 5:22 1 Tim. 6:12 2 Tim 2:15
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

« - | Eastern Orthodoxy »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC5
BibleTruthForums.com

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28