I looked in the Christian Evidences section but only found a thread about Warren's dabate on the topic. How about a thread for members to post biblical references that prove that God exists?

My personal favorite passages to present to athiests and agnostics come from portions of Ecclesiates...the all is vanity portions, rather than being about Solomon's mid-life crisis, actually presents the logic basis that God must exist. I find that this approach really gets through to many self-proclaimed athiests, most of whom are actually agnostics. I can also reference portions of Job and Genesis as well.

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Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. ... Luke 9:62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

Good idea! Lets if we can get something started here.

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1 Peter 5:6-7: Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you. -ESV

It should be quite a substantial result after we all contribute and chew on it awhile...something like this hasn't been done among the brethren for a very long time...it's time to dust if off.

I am working offline on my presentation from Ecclesiastes ... too much to type off the cuff.

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Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. ... Luke 9:62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

I recently finished a rather rudimentary study of Christian evidences recently so I will contribute some but I would like to see what others have to say, lets not let this one die.

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1 Peter 5:6-7: Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you. -ESV

Looking forward to it.

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The church of Christ at Granby

The bible describes every thing from beginning to end. People talk about the myans and others that created these calendars. Well for all the non believers Every one of the zodiacs and seasons and signs are written in the KJV bible.

Would you care to elaborate on the bolded portion please?

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1 Peter 5:6-7: Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you. -ESV

Sure bro. Example Job 38 vr27,28,31,32.

Also in revelation it talks about the lion of the tribe of juda being able to unbind the seven seals. This is reference to LEO then after you read this you go back to revelation ch 2 vr 1-4. This first love is reference to 2 things one is Virgo which is Leos first love there side by side its Leo then virgo. Also it is reference to the second coming You know jesus born of the virgin mary. Same as then will be now the second coming will be a person born in the Leo sign already predestined of course and after he has grown in age he will find a virgo who he falls in love with and well this is when he will receive the spirit of god. Oh left out the second first love. After this is done the first love also refers to God thy almighty father.

God said he created the heavens and the earth not just our planet. Also makes reference of the stars for signs and seasons. Gensis Ch 3 talks about the shining sword in the placed at the east of the guarden a shining sword guarded by 2 cheribums that keeps the way of the tree of life. This is representive of the sun.

God bless everybody

Where did this teaching of your originate from? Is this the teaching of a religious group or did you derive this on your own?

I thought I had heard just about everything but this article tops them all. This is a joke?

I shouldnt laugh, I just hope and pray that 'Tann3100' will have a yearning to want to learn the TRUTH.

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"Examine yourselves whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves" (2 Cor. 13:5).

Dear brother laugh if you like for your laughter matters to me not.

God bless you

Brother I have never been to church really got baptizied when I was like 10 but didnt even know what it meant. No none of this teaching is from any faith. I believe something has rallied in me and I feel full of light. Now you can laugh and call me a name but I judge not.

Ill post a reply to someone that I was speaking with about christian.

I will anwser that best I can in a few moments

Brother I appreciate your honesty and your dilligence to enbark in conversation without being judgemental that is highly admired and says alot about you I really appreciate it. Also brother please understand that I mean no harm to you or any other brothers and sisters that are on this board I do not wish to convert anyone from any faith for that is how my father who others call god speaks to you is through the faith you choose to walk. But lets remember too that he speaks the same messages to all of his children even through various tounges and various books. You see I am here to help others unerstand the faith they beleive in whether it be christians, muslims, or whoever, using your own religion and your own religious books and also show you that the very people you think are not your brothers really are. Now dont get me wrong Im not saying that my muslim brothers are the one's running around blowing up stuff not by any means I am here to show that those with the light pray to the same god the ultimate creator in heaven who is only separated by human perception and tounge we cannot contain god to a box he is much bigger than that. Im neither belong to god the almighty father in heaven jesus is my brother. You see the man you call jesus of nazareth was annointed with the holy spirit that is what gave hime his strength he walked with god as his only begotten son because he walked with the holy spirit that was created by god.

You see the god created us in his likeness most thinks what we look like now is his likeness but no that is not correct. You see his likeness is our spirit that is the image god created us in for it cannot be held as a image we are living in a temporary covering on loan till god is ready for us. You see to understand why jesus came to earth is to understand similarly why I am here. You see there was a disconnect as time went on. You see our father in the beginning as explained in gensis in the beginning was the word and god was the word. So in the beginning we all walked by god because he spoke everything into existence you see there was no separation even though tradition was passed down orally we knew who god was. Then came adam (flesh) who ate of the tree of knowledge we see up until this point adam was one with god no separation of spirit and flesh. After the serpent tempted eve and eve got adam also to eat that is when flesh made a concisous choice aside from that of what god wanted you see up until this time adam lived and done exactly as god had commanded he had no worries life was easy. After adam ate the apple he noticed they were naked this tells us that his spirit had separated from the flesh and now he was plagued with human perceptio. See before he didnt realize it because he was one with god who guided him in all he done. So after this is when choice came into place. Well as time went on it came to a point similar to where we are at now that no one realized who was there brother and who wasnt. So god sent his only begotten son to be among us for we were being led astray by human perception and the ways of the world. So god sent his only begotten son (this is his spirit that descended down like a dove the word made flesh) onto jesus of nazareth. You see they crucified jesus of nazareth on the cross but the thing we fail to realize is they did not kill gods only begotten son because the spirit arose to be with the father the holy spirit. Jesus of nazareth spirit also rose to be with the father jesus of nazareth had the spirit of god upon him (holy spirit) so that god might see the problems we face through the holy spirit. You see so many people worship jesus the man on the cross but do not worship the spirit of god that arose from him which you would call christ.

I am not trying to cast stumbling blocks but I am sent to help clear up some confusion not just here but every where praise god.

I will touch on the muslims etc a little later on.

You see Our father's name is ineffable so many seek to know it. Our father is who we call the almighty creator the only one god, the all of all, the light of light, You see as long as we accept he sent his only begotten son to dwell among mankind to save us and we pray to the one god almighty creator (whom I call father) we are doing what god commands. God knows our heart and who we are praying too. See names are mere perception this is why he has many names in order to speak to all his children. This is why his name is ineffable. You see this is why god tells us we love the tree but hate the fruit or we love the fruit but hate the tree. For some say they love god but yet there brother calls god by a different name which they comprehend not and they say there brother is praying to a false god or speaking of a false prophet and this happens between all religions and god our father is getting a little tired of it for the time is near. You will or should be witnessing a spiritual awakeing it should start to find its very way here because this happens to be the way of the time we are in right now. The reason you are seing this is because our father is tired and the time is coming upon us.

For remember I am accountable to the father for what I say here I do not come to cast stumbling blocks but come to speak peace upon your hearts.

God bless you

I have to say that this is a first, and while I find absolutely no Biblical evidence for the above teaching, let us be polite. Speak the truth in love.

I can assure you, tann3100, that you will find no acceptance of astrology here. The heavenly bodies (the planets and stars) are simply a part of the physical creation. They declare God by their existence, but you cannot predict the future by them. Specifically in regard to the second coming please read Mark 13:32.

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Mark 13:32 Exactly flesh know not the hour only thy father and if one being indwelt with the spirit of god in our age rise up the spirit of god will be his witness. This merely says that man know not that hour and only thy father god.

Ok also another thing the lord laid on me.


Where is the kingdom of the father in which ye seek?

Where were the alters built upon the rocks the bible talks about?

When he says he will write a name on a rock in which no man knows what is that reference too?

When noah strikes the rock and water issues forth doth ye know what it means?

In Romans 8 do we understand the two laws?

What is the meaning of circumsision?

God bless you

Dear brother I study not astrology just the word of god.

Job 38 31-33

Yes, James, he does need much teaching. If he is willing to be taught we are willing to teach. This thread is a good example of the depth of his misunderstanding of scripture.

Kindly,
Don

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So I take it you dont think the spirit of god is capable of teaching on his on any more? What great wealth has come to dwell in such instances.

God bless you

Tann, we Christians believe that the Holy Scriptures are all inspired by the Holy Spirit. We believe that the faith was "once for all delivered to the saints". Jude 3
We believe that we have been given "all things that pertain to life and godliness". 2 Peter 1.3
What more does a Christian need in order to live a godly life?
Do you consider yourself a Christian?

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Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a steadfast spirit within me.
Psalm 51:10

Tann,
As you continue studying in this site, please capitalize God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. It is out of our reverence we must do so.

My turn, as I'm well studied in the heavens... I love outer space.. but scripture always is right...

ok just wanted to make a point to everyone before I start with Tann.

My point is that the bible talks about the heavens as speaking knowledge of God day and night. Psalm 19:1-2 To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament shows His handiwork. 2 Day unto day utters speech, And night unto night reveals knowledge.

"Age to Come" that will bring the second coming of Christ, just as this age that we are in now was told to the Jews to look for the Christ, we are looking for the second coming, now the three wise men look towards the heavens to find Christ. the star of Bentham was their guide.

support of the "Age to Come"
Matthew 12:32 32 "Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Matthew 13:39-52 39 "The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. 40 "Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. 41 "The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, 42 "and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 "Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear! 44 " Again, the kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and hid; and for joy over it he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field. 45 " Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant seeking beautiful pearls, 46 "who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had and bought it. 47 " Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet that was cast into the sea and gathered some of every kind, 48 "which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but threw the bad away. 49 "So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 "and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth." 51 Jesus said to them, "Have you understood all these things?" They said to Him, "Yes, Lord." 52 Then He said to them, "Therefore every scribe instructed concerning the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out of his treasure things new and old."

Matthew 24:3 3 Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"

Matthew 24:3 3 Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"

Matthew 28:20 20 "teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.

Mark 10:29-30 29 So Jesus answered and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel's, 30 "who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time -- houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions -- and in the age to come, eternal life.

Luke 18:29-30 29 So He said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or parents or brothers or wife or children, for the sake of the kingdom of God, 30 "who shall not receive many times more in this present time, and in the age to come eternal life

Luke 20:34-35 34 And Jesus answered and said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 "But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage;

1 Corinthians 1:19-21 19 For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent." 20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.

1 Corinthians 2:6-10 6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, 8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him." 10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.

1 Corinthians 3:18 18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise.

2 Corinthians 4:3-4 3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.

Galatians 1:4-5 4 who gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father, 5 to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen.

Ephesians 1:21 21 far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come.

Ephesians 6:12 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

1 Timothy 6:17 17 Command those who are rich in this present age not to be haughty, nor to trust in uncertain riches but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy.

Titus 2:12-13 12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, 13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

Hebrews 6:4-5 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,

Now.. this could mean two things.
1. that it means the next age, meaning Aquarius
2. or it could be a age of something else..

Pisces = Fish (the Christian Symbol)Mark 1:15-17 15 and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel." 16 And as He walked by the Sea of Galilee, He saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea; for they were fishermen. 17 Then Jesus said to them, "Follow Me, and I will make you become fishers of men."

Aquarius = water-bearer ( a man pouring water on the fish)John 7:37-39 37 On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, "If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. 38 "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water." 39 But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

just to show that there is biblical support of this. not saying his view is correct that God created it, it serves his purpose. to do his will.

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Where does scripture ever say there were three wise men?

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hehehe good point... it doesnt ? I never though of that... wow... ok down that you walked in to this ... lol how many where there?

how did we come up with three? I'm guessing because their was three gifts?

Don look what you done... lol

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