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Originally Posted by tux  Hi BVidlar!
Lk 10:1 in the KJV and NIV both include the word "others," so Christ appears to be speaking not to the Twelve, but to a separate batch of disciples on this mission.
These, very excited about this new power they were given (by Christ) are reminded of the real reason for our joy (Lk 10:18 "...rejoice that your names are written in heaven" to spend eternity with, and glorify, Him).
Point being, Judas is not included in this group, and his name is not identified as being written in the Lamb's book of life so the he cannot be an example either for or against the 2nd chance argument.. Not that I believe this teaching, as Hebrews 9:27 makes clear.
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The word “other” does indicate somebody else besides the twelve. The Greek word for “other” is “heteros” which means “not of the same kind, different.” So you are correct and thanks for pointing that out. From the prior chapter of Luke we know for certain that the “twelve” went forth with “power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases…preaching the gospel, and healing everywhere (Luke 9:1-6).
I suppose the question is this, did Jesus commission the “twelve” for only one mission trip as recorded in (Luke 9:1-6), OR, did they work with the “seventy” as recorded in (Luke 10:1) going from city to city. I may stand corrected, but I tend to think the “twelve” were sent on two mission trips. AND the reason I think this is because of the use of the word "also" in (Luke 10:1).
Either way, it really makes no difference to reference Judas as such because there was a time in his discipleship career that he was in good standing; being able to cast out demons and to heal all diseases, preaching the gospel.
In Him,