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Originally Posted by Robert  I think this is the bottom line (and yes I was being sarcastic Rung when I asked if God hated me):
Miracles and such were only around to confirm the word (Mark 16:20 teaches this plainly). |
If Mark 16:20 taught plainly exactly what you say it does, then all of us here on this forum would agree with each other. Since we do not, then the teaching is apparently not so plain.
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When that which is perfect or complete came (the word of God) then there was no need to confirm the word this way anymore (1 Corinthians 13:9-10).
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"For we know in part, and we prophesy in part." I Cor 13:9
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our knowledge of the Word of God that is "in part", not the Word of God itself.
"But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away." I Cor 13:10
Having the Bible in our hand does not make our knowledge perfect. If it did then every Bible owner would have perfect knowledge.
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Jude 3 says that the faith was ONCE FOR ALL delivered to the saints. This teaches me that the perfect has come and the time (dispensation or apostolic age) has ended. There are no more reasons for miracles to work today.
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Faith was delivered, but we must also increase our faith, going from faith to faith: {"...gospel of Christ... For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith." Rom 1:16-17}
If we are just we live by faith, but what we are looking for, what we are expecting will arrive at the "end of our faith" [I Peter 1:7-9]. Then we will no longer live by faith, but by knowledge. We will no longer see a glass darkly, but clearly.
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When we talk about God's providential care to his children (whether righteous or wicked) that has never ceased. Joseph in the book of Genesis is a great example of providence. Had Joseph just sat down and done absolutely nothing feeling sorry for himself he would have not had the opportunities opened by God that the Book tells us about.
Providence is a great wonderful thing. Now, does God work today? YES. He does wonderful amazing things. He keeps our Universe from imploding by keeping the right chemical mixture in our atmosphere that cannot be duplicated by scientists. He keeps our Sun from rotating into the Earth. He keeps the planets in perfect alignment. He allows us to have rain when we need it and dry times when needed also. God is certainly at work today and we cannot deny that.
However, to say that God works outside of that amazing providential care is to go beyond the Book.
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Where are your scripures which show that this "providential care" exists and that it is the only way that God is working today?
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I assume that the author of this thread had something else in mind when they chose to use the words "unchangeably ordain".
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Undoubtedly!