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Old 08-26-08, 06:59 PM
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Re: Does God unchangeably ordain everything that comes to pass?

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Originally Posted by Bottom_Rung View Post
What God did before we were aware to to speak His Word. What he spoke included all of the blessings and all of the curses possible (as contained in scripture) for us. What we are receiving here and now is a mixture of blessings and cursings.

In accord with all of what God has already said and how we respond to what He has said we will be blessed more or cursed more.

When we are cursed it is because we choose to be cursed (by our response to the curses promised). Such curses may cause the removal of blessings that we have already received.

We all started out with certain blessings from God when were born naturally to our natural mothers. By moving in the right direction [toward God] we can receive more blessings.

God does not change and His Word does not change, but our response to His Word will change according to blessings or cursings that we already have and according to how our whole beling responds to that Word. Salvation is not set in concrete, but rather it is one of those blessings God has for those that respond to His Word continuously in the manner that He desires.

Some blessings we received before we were even able to make any decisions. This is most certainly unwarrented or unearned favor from God. Such grace continues to be given.

We are unable to respond to God as He would desire without help. He made available to us all of the help that is needed to do all that He would have us to do. All we have to do is ask:

"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:" Matt 7:7
Hi Bottom_Rung,
There are some confusing things in your post. According to what you have said, it seems that you are going beyond what God teaches us, which is that the rain falls on the good and bad. It is how we handle these issues and respond to what God commands of us in His Word that influences our soul, but not necessarily the things in our life.


Matthew 5:44-46
44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,[a] 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
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