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Originally Posted by Craig1974  John 6:70
70Jesus answered them, "Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?"
I am not saying that Jesus and the Father are not One. I am just suggesting that it would not be unscriptural ie a violation to pray to Jesus as He accepted worship and forgave sins just as The Father does. I know we do not have all that much to go on and I certainly think it is essential to not stray from scripture. But keep in mind though that in every instance where an Apostle was chosen, Jesus was involved. Jesus personally chose Paul as he did the others in the gospels. I don't think it is out of bounds to look at verse 24 in Acts 1 and determine that it was Jesus the Son of God whom they were praying to specifically. I see your point that the events of that Pentecost had not occured. As I said brothers, this is a worthy topic to discuss. |
Yes, Jesus did choose them and so did the Father because Jesus did nothing without the direction and will of the Father, and I mean nothing. That is why Jesus said the Father gave the apostles to Him. That is also why I pointed out that God is One.
I did not think that you saying they were not One, but that we can not say that it was for sure Jesus. We may speculate all we want within possibilities but not make them absolute. It is just good wisdom and application of scripture when we teach the scriptures to others. Know what I mean?
Regarding some of the other statments by others in the thread about Jesus not having the church established yet, I do not think that it makes any difference. Make no mistake, when Jesus assended, He sat down to rule next to the Father. He took His place before the church was established in Acts 2.
Peter said so in Acts 2 itself. He already was in His place with the Father.
32 This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses. 33 Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear.
Just a little something else to think about.
