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Old 07-12-08, 07:41 PM
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Re: Heaven and Hell - Is This True?

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Originally Posted by RJ Mac View Post



Jesus went to Paradise in hades in heart of the earth, so did the thief on the cross.
Things changed when Jesus ascended, Eph.4:8; now the spirits of men
could enter heaven because they were made perfect by the blood of Christ.
So when we die we go to heaven today, then no righteous enter hades only the wicked.

Do you believe no one goes to heaven? Everyone sits in Abraham's bosom waiting for judgment
day then they go to heaven. But Rev.21:1; teaches new Jerusalem comes down from heaven,
to the new earth, so come judgment day we don't go to heaven but a new earth.

RJ
(Rev. 21:1) teaches no such thing!
If you do a word study you will find that the words, “new heavens and a new earth” are found 4 times in the Bible…(Isaiah 65:17, 66:22, 2 Peter 3:13, and Revelation 21:1)….You would do well to study all passages. Our “treasures” are in HEAVEN (Matt.6:19), our “hope” is in HEAVEN (Col. 1:5), our “citizenship” is in HEAVEN (Phil. 3:20), and our “inheritance” is “reserved” in HEAVEN (1 Pet. 1:3-4). NOT on earth as you claim. The earth and the heavens will be destroyed by fire (2 Pet. 3:10, 12). What is NOT destroyed is the soul of man…good or evil (Ez. 18:4) and the “heaven of heavens” (Deut.10:14, Ps. 115:16). God gave man the “lesser heavens”; if I may use that term, and the earth for man. But what God gave man; the heavens and earth, will all be destroyed by fire.
After Christ conquered both sin and death and was resurrected on the third day; after which later He ascended to be with our Father He “consecrated for us, dedicated for us, opened for us a NEW and living way, through the veil or curtain” (Heb. 10:20) which is tabernacle language saying that since Christ was the “forerunner for us” on our behalf (Heb. 6:20) we now have access to enter the holy of holies and our Father in the “heaven of heavens.” And we have John’s vision who seen the 144,000 (Rev. 7:4, 14:1), which is the whole of God’s people who represent “all Israel” (Rom. 11:26) standing before the throne and before the Lamb (Rev. 7:9) in HEAVEN.

Now really, RJ, you need to get this right…I am fearful of your teaching. We are more than happy to study with you, but unless you have a “tender and humble heart” (2 Kings 22:19) I am afraid you will never understand (Is. 65:12).

Respectfully submitted for your consideration,
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