David - Jn.3:13; "no man has ascended into heaven.." is spoken by Jesus and is stated at the
beginning of His ministry, it doesn't mean no one will go there after Jesus dies. In Rev. we see
saints in the heavenly throne under the altar, we see the 24 elders, they reign with Christ in
heaven for a 1,000 yrs. John see's saints in robes of white who have come out of the great
tribulation. There all in heaven because now the way is possible because Jesus has cleansed
the way with His own blood. See Heb.12:22ff.

Robert - yes Jesus went to Hades, called it paradise to the thief, latter Paul then goes to heaven,
calls it paradise, I believe after Jesus died the way is open and the saints enter the throne
room after they die. Even OT heros are in heaven.

I don't believe we are going to heaven for eternity but are headed for a New Earth as in Rev.21:1f
A realm where Jesus will walk with man once again, with our immortal bodies. heaven is for
the spirits of righteous men awaiting Judgment day. Hades is for spirits of wicked men awaiting
judgment day. Hell is the eternal destiny of the wicked men after judgment day. New earth
is the eternal destiny for righteous men after judgment day. It's not that complicated.

RJ