| Re: one "true" Church?
I will sit down one day, and do a study on these matter: individual soul liberty, judging others, when can we judge our brother, etc, as I am not clear on some of these matters. Certainly, if I find that the Bible says so, I would have no problem not fellowshipping with soldiers. Even without a clear instruction (as far as I can see at this time) from the Bible, I can tell you I feel uncomfortable among people in the military who claim to be brothers.
Webshephard, you said "2 Thessalonians 3:6 also includes "not in accord with the tradition that you received from us." This could very well include a bother in sin."
I believe you are taking those few words out of context. The very next verse goes on to define this "tradition that you received from us" :verse 7:"For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, 8nor did we eat anyone's food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you." Considering that verse 6-14 is all talking about idleness, I think that portion of verse 6 is also. Also, the word "tradition" or "teaching" depending on the translation is singular, so it seems to be talking about one particular thing. I think the wording is clearest in the KJV: "6Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
Regarding James 5:19,20...of course we should warn anyone that is living in sin.
You also said "I would like to point out one thing about Matthew 18:15. If a Christian brother sins publicly then he is sinning against the church, which we are a part of, therefore he sins against us. Surely we would not stand by idly and let a bother fester in his sin. Is that love?"
This doesn't sound quite right to me. It is true that we would not stand by idly (we should warn him of his sin). But isn't sin an act against God and God's law? We are all one, through the Holy Spirit, in Christ, with Christ as the head of the Church, but I don't think this means we can say that such a brother sins against us personally. We are one in Christ, but we are also individuals. Consider that Christ is also a part of the Church, obviously, as are we. So can we say that when he was killed, those men were sinning against us? We are in God, we share of His Spirit, but we are not "one" with Him or with each other in every way. We are one in Christ, but we are also individuals. We will all be judged as individuals. John 21:22 says"Jesus answered, If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me."
Psalm 51:4 says "Against you, you only, have I sinned and done what is evil in your sight, so that you are proved right when you speak and justified when you judge."
Galations 6:5 "for each one should carry his own load."
Do you enforce this at you Church? If anyone is guilty of sinning publicly, do you disassociate with him. Any sin? In most Churches, no one really knows anyone else since the "fellowship" is just empty smalltalk so the issue doesn't come up too often.
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