Who here has ever been taught that that there is a difference between Jesus's purification of the flesh (Jesus did this for us on the cross, Hebrews 9:14) and purification of the conscience (the GUARANTEE of salvation)?
http://cf.blueletterbible.org/search...tee&t=RSV&sf=5

How about a NON-double talk explanation of the water that flowed from Christ's side at the cross?

I remember a pastor once gave a sermon about the water that flowed from Christ's side. That pastor spent about 45 minutes saying "Well, uhh, I don't really know, but it could be maybe a disease or phenomena that a person's sweat could possibly mix with their blood when they get nervous, either that or maybe something similar, but, uhh, scholars don't know for sure or really have any explanation,...and on and on and on for 45 minutes.

I came to this forum because I thought it had a special focus/emphasis on deep truths that can be found in scripture. I realize that the status quo is society's (the 'world's') comfort zone, but a GODLY devotion should not rest in' the world's comfort zone, but rest in Jesus. If you are ever going to discover the absolute truth about anything, you are going to have to leave the world's status quo comfort zone (become a renegade of the status quo).

A bible scholar may accumulate many commentaries, dictionaries, etc,. study hundreds of sermons, read Christian articles (Matthew Henry's commentary is 5 inches thick, maybe 50 million words). All together, a Christian might study about 200 million words....in order to try to understand the ONE (ONE) God (compare 200 million and ONE,...big difference, isn't there?).

Leave the status quo of institutional Christianity, explore the possibility that the creator is more than a book, and seek objective/unbiased truth.

NOTHING in scripture just 'happened'. God made sure that Pilate said "What is truth?" (keep in mind that Pilate was not a philosopher). We never find any answer in scripture until John 14:6, "I am the way, the...").

When money is used for a DEVOTION to God, it is called "mammon". The institutional/traditional church has always used "mammon" as a requirement for devotion (THINK HARD).

Mankind has always taken the 3 gifts of God...
1) creation (Father)
2) salvation (son)
3) Godly teaching (spirit)

and replaced it with the teachings and habits of the 6th day creation (note 3 times 6).

Open your mind, leave the comfort zone (but you can't, can you? instititutional christianity has removed your individuality/humanity with "self abasement"...
http://cf.blueletterbible.org/search...ent&t=RSV&sf=5
("I am who I am" doesn't want this).

Traditional/institutional Christianity has always been under the "strong delusion" because they "refused to love the [absolute objective unbiased] truth".

Strive to have a "more excellent" devotion/relationship and "enter by the door" (John 10:1) because the "hirelings" have not taught us right.