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Originally Posted by and so be saved  I realize that the common habit of systematically picking out and separating each part/section of a post in order to object to the WHOLE message piece by piece is not undestood as "taking out of context", but it is a tactic used by the god of confusion to keep humanity from realizing objective truth (and it is VERY effective). However, we all have freewill, this habit is the 'status quo' (accepted norm).
I also realize that whenever I say/write anything that is contrary to the status quo, I will be resented by the other person because they use the status quo to validate themselves. Their intention will become 'singular and inflexible' and that they have already decided that they must forever object to and discredit whatever I say/write (at this point, actual "DISCUSSION" is starting to seem impossible).
Yet, all of that is not what really boithers me, it is the ABUSE/ridicule/mockery part ("cookie cutter post" that your puffed up 'master scholar' intellect has imagined). Whether or not you realize that by being a "master intellectual scholar" you are glorifying YOURSELF (not GOD), I don't feel the necessity of accepting abuse from you.
IF you ever do become a 'GODLY' Christian, you will first have to learn to be CIVIL (but civility is not taught in the traditional "christian" teachings of MAN).
"...they refused to love the truth AND SO BE SAVED". |
What are you talking about?
You make a post and it is wrong to take scripture and show it to you for your study to see if it is true? This has nothing to do with self righteousness but God's. We go to Him and His scripture to find the Truth.
There is no wisdom, but God's, no opinion but God's, Jesus said NOTHING except what the Father said and commanded. He told His will and Word only.
That is all we have of God. The Word. That is all that has authority. No human on earth has any authority to say anything about anything spiritual, except it come from scripture. If we did, then we could be our own savior and we would have no need for God.
You speak with judgment about a loving christian that dedicated his life to the Lord. He was only pouring out his energy to teach and apply the Word of God.
Instead of judging, you might do well to read the scriptures, check the context and see if what has been presented is Truth. If it is not, then please present the scriptures that conflict with the proposed teaching. That is the whole purpose of the Word..to confirm the Truth.
Please reconsider your words before pouring out insults that do not really hurt us but the Christ you profess and we love since He rebuked satan with scripture and taught us to follow His example. Do you think Jesus was out of line for doing so? How about the apostles, when they did?
Why have teaching if there is no absolute Truth? That is what you are saying, isn't it? If the Word cannot be used or referred to, to correct error, there is no errror then and anything goes. Actually, you are making your own law...The law that if one uses scripture to correct someone, they are a sinner and not of God.
Do you really want to go before God and try to explain this one away? Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to teach us the rest of the Truth. This means it takes more than the gospel to save someone, it takes being born, then abiding in the Truth and Word, which is the doctrine of the apostles, given by the Holy Spirit. This means it counts for something and is worthy to be used for not only reference but also learning...
Please learn from the scriptures and quit resisting them. If you know the scriptures, use them and do not let your emotions fuel your jugments but instead, let the scriptures guide them for by them we learn Christ and His Word to us, the church.
If you are wise in the scriptures, use them, teach us if what you have been taught is wrong. We are always studying together in this site and differences are often shared, but in love for God and His Word. Not in bitter insults and poison of speech. It is as if you are saying, it is your way or the highway. So who is doing the law giving here? God from the scriptures or you and your opinion and man made judgments/teaching?
Please take this post as an encouragent to have a study, not to be mean. I just care enough to let you see the seriousness of your action. If you truly care for souls and God, you will return with a different attitude and respond in a spiritual mindset.
Romans 2:21
You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself?
1 Corinthians 2:13
These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
Galatians 6:6
Let him who is taught the word share in all good things with him who teaches.
Colossians 1:28
Him we preach, warning every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.
1 Timothy 6:3-5
3 If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, 4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, 5 useless wranglings[a] of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose
2 Timothy 4:2
Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.[b]
Hebrews 5:12
For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
2 Peter 3:15-17
15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;