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Originally Posted by willb  I really do not see what you are trying to put accross. Ive read that twice.
Now to me its quite simple. Its Jesus death on the cross that saved us - its that that was prophecyed and its that that the new testament attests.
Baptism is obedience that i think we both agree on. But its the cross we must focus on - there is the grace and evidence of the love of God.
When we preach something other than the cross and Jesus death and add works to it thus stating that Jesus death was not enough is that not false teaching?. |
I'm jumping in on an old discussion, but for sake of clarification it is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus that opened the flood gates of grace and forgiveness. The apostles preached the RESURRECTION. We are saved by this gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-5) and baptism is the burial that preceeds our resurrection (Romans 6:1-5 and Colossians 2:12). It is absolutely a matter of obedience, but there could not have been a resurrection without Jesus' death and burial. Likewise, we must die, be buried and our Savior raises us up (Ephesians 2:4-6) in grace. Notice all three inherent in Colossians 3:1-4 - "if" you have been raised follows the "if you have died" (Colossians 2:20) and "when you were buried" (2:12) teachings.
Teaching the cross is not false teaching, but it may be incomplete teaching. We must proclaim the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus (1 Corinthians 15:1-2 -the gospel) and we must obey that death, burial and resurrection (2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 - obey the gospel). His death was NOT enough. It was His sacrificial death and His RESURRECTION that opened the way of salvation by grace through faith.