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Originally Posted by Peace-be-with-you  Illuminator, Even though you baited me with several misconceptions, I did not join this thread a few months ago to argue for or against Catholicism; my post history will vouch for that. |
You baited yourself. I quoted several of YOUR church's manuscripts (even if you don't want to acknowledge them). That is what they printed. I quoted from God's Word and gave scripture...can you do the same for this:
From the Council of Trent and Lateran Council of 1215 where they gave authority to the "priest" to forgive sins (as I see today the "father" does still say, "Your sins are forgiven...") and in the catholics dictionary, Vatican edition on p. 821 says that he recieves gifts to say ANY prayers.
God's Word is different because we learn from God that He alone forgives sins (Mark 2:6-10; 1 John 1:9; 2:1) and that the gift of Go cannot be bought (1 Peter 1:18).
You came here and I am posting anything that is contradictory with God's Word...especially when it comes from man's doctrine to let people know what is truth from God and what is a lie from man.
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This is not a Catholic forum and I'll respect that. If the admins wanted a Catholic sub-forum for Catholic disscussion, they would have put one in. Don't get me wrong, I would not mind disscussing each and every point you bring up about the Catholic Church, but at this time, I don't think the folks that set this website up, wish want to go in that direction.
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I am in this area called denominationalism...and can discuss anything about the denominations in this world. The church that Christ built is not a denomination because it is not one of many but one of one. And if the admins don't want me to bring up these matters, then they will let me know.
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I only responded to what you said about the Catholic Church not wanting people to read the bible because your statement, although slightly accurate at one time, and for good reason, is not true today and I thought members and readers of this forum should know, and would want to know.
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Slightly accurate? And for good reason? When and where is anything that is OPPOSITE from God's Word slightly okay? Either you are right or wrong in God's sight. Okay...is it still a good reason to steal when only necessary (manual of Christian doctrine, p. 157, 297)? God's Word tells us that it is wrong to covet and steal...period! But then again maybe your church changed its doctrine again while the Bile has been the same from the beginning?
I use scripture and your church's past statements and you don't want them brought up...plain and simple. I am showing where God's Word has not changed from the beginning and where man's doctrine has changed and is ever changing still. That is truth.
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I joined this forum because I have friends from different walks of life that attend the Church or Christ churches and I thought this forum was a good source for keeping in tune with that theology and there is always the possabilty of learning something or looking at something through a persective I have never considered before.
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I keep in tune with denominations teach and then I am like the Bereans to look at them TOTALLY (not just the present) but see where their founder is and how they began and if and how they might try to twist the scriptures to fit their doctrine. And then come from God's Word with the truth...period.
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