
04-02-08, 01:02 PM
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| Re: The Burning Bush Quote:
Originally Posted by RJ Mac BVidlar: I agree whole heartedly with your last post and I don't believe anyone has seen God face to face.
I believe as you stated in the pre-incarnate appearances of the Messiah in a form in which He could
communicate with men. Whether it be as the Messenger of God, a pillar of fire or a burning bush, the
Messiah worked and communicated with men.
I found another interesting verse to think about concerning the Angel of the Lord and that is Mal.3:1;
"... And the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to His temple and the Messenger (Angel) of the
covenant in whom you delight, behold He is coming, says the Lord of Hosts.
The same word for angel is used but translated Messenger in relation to the coming Messiah.
Question is, could not Messenger be used in place of angel in all those other references, eliminating
the confusion, blending this prophecy with those events to show that Jesus is the Messenger, now in
the form of a man. No man has seen God, but they have seen His likeness, Heb.1:3;
I never said that men had seen God, I only said that it was God speaking from the burning bush. From what you wrote, it sure seemed like that is what you meant. We never said God did not speak to Moses at the bush but instead pointed out that it was an angel in the bush, not God Himself. It is not opinion here, just a clarification via the scriptures that tell us that this was the case.
We will never understand everything or every way of God. He is God but we cannot step out into speculation and teach it as absolute fact. It can become a false teaching when such things are given as a seed of teaching. Spread enough seed that is not from the Word and it turns into a crop of briers that can kill a good crop.
RJ Mac | RJ,
This is the best post you have made thus far. I am not talking about being in agreement or not, but instead, speaking with clarity and respect for the scriptures. Good Job!
Good job considering all the verses and THEN attempting to draw conclusions. This kind of walking in the light, by the light, keeps us from stumbling.
Please look into the list of scriptures as suggested and then we can let them do the talking. There is study I read once and will try to post it for us to refer on this very topic.
In addition I must add that we need to think about this, why would God send Himself to be the messenger so it must be either a man (prophet/preacher), an angel (also a spiritual messenger), Jesus (God, who became flesh and was The Messenger). Truly we will never know all of these answers but we can rule out some of them most of the time by staying in the scriptures and taking in the whole counsel of God. |