Originally Posted by Steven

Agreed.

I think we need to stay on this topic and not get too far off of it.

RJ, brother Vidlar's verse needs to be addressed in light of the verses I gave earlier.

I do not dispute with the verses you bring up. I am going with what we KNOW as a WHOLE from the scriptures. We cannot push our thoughts into the verses but let the verses speak to us.

There are certain facts we know and lets stay in those. I would like us to do some homework.

1. Lets begin to list all the times God interacted with man.

2. Lets list all the relating scriptures.

RJ, the verses you speak of are not in dispute. What is in dispute is the way you portray the verses in that we HAVE to take those verses and combine the verses about no man seeing God by God and Jesus.

Lets not get off base and say angels are God or God is an angel, or Jesus is an angel or vice versa.

By looking at what we list, it can give us a picture. God's Word is not hard to understand, if we do not wish to resist it or displace it with our own ideas.

I look forward to your response and list of scriptures addressing 1&2.