Laura - I will see what I can answer for you:

Jesus goes into heaven when He ascends 40 days latter and when He does He goes with His blood, making the way possible for everyone else.
Could you please provide specific scripture for this assertion. Heb.9:11-15;

Eph.4:8 he took captivity captive, captivity was Abraham's bosom, it was the righteous in Hades not awaiting judgment day but for Christ to kick open the gates of Hades and take them into heaven as we see in Heb.11:39,40 OT righteous men not made perfect.
Respectfully, I have read these verses and do not see anything in them remotely like what you are saying here.

Respectfully I would appreciate you sharing what you believe the text to say, its easy to say I don't believe what I say. Abraham's bosom was seen as a prison, no one from the OT new what Sheol was about until Jesus enlightened us in Lk.16. No one went to heaven until the blood of Christ was shed.
But I await your explanation of Eph.4:8;


Then in Heb.12:23 No where does it say the saints are IN heaven. It says they are REGISTERED in heaven. The two are not synonymous. When we are saved, our names get written in the book of life (Philippians 4:3), which resides in heaven. That's all this verse is referring to.

Interesting how the Hebrew author uses the word REGISTERED - APOGRAPHA - is used when we see that Joseph had to go with Mary to register for the census in Lk.2:1,3,5; To register one had to be there personally. Yes my name is written in the book of life but it can be erased. These guys are there personally and personally registered. Note what the text says he sees, a festal assembly, angels, God, Jesus, spirits of righteous men, the assembly of the first born, he doesn't say the book of the assembly, he says the assembly. We see that same assembly in heaven in Rev.7:9-17; again in Rev.20:4-6; If they are not in heaven then please explain those two Rev. quotes.


Look in Rev.6:9-11 the souls of saints under the altar in heaven. Rev.7:9-17 the saints in heaven at that time, at this time, right now.
First, the Revelation of Jesus Christ is written in symbolic language. The souls of the saints under the altar in heaven is a symbolic term. There are not real altars in heaven as there is no more need for sacrifice. Jesus was our sacrifice and He died once for all.

They are under the altar because they are the sacrifices and God speaks to them in heaven telling them to wait until the rest of them shall be killed then He would put a stop to the Roman persecution. These martyrs are not in hades but in heaven.


Paradise is no longer in hades, see 2Cor.12:2-4 Paul was taken to the 3rd heaven, the throne room of God which he also calls Paradise.
Respectfully, this passage does not say "the throne room of God". The word heaven clearly can sometimes mean Paradise, which Paul states here. That in no way implies it is the abode of God.

Okay so your being technical, heaven cannot mean throne room of God, but it can mean paradise, but God does not abide in heaven. I beg to differ.


Jesus took Paradise into heaven once His blood was shed now sin was forgiven and the spirits of men could enter into heaven.
This is the second time you have said this yet produced no scriptural proof. Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus took Paradise into heaven?

Ep.4:8; awaiting your explanation, mine is that captivity is Abraham's bosom, God's people who waited in hades until the time was right. Jesus came and explained everything to them and when He ascended taking His blood into heaven, the way was made possible for men to enter heaven and they did.


There are no righteous souls in Hades because Jesus has taken them to heaven with Him and when we die we are judged, in the blood or not, if not your in hades if you are your in heaven.
And again, respectfully, where does the Bible teach this? 2 Peter 2:9 says that God reserves the unjust for the day of judgment. Not days, where each person has his own upon his death. Day, singular. There is ONE judgment day.

Your concept of judgment day is lacking. Lets go back to Lk.16 the rich man has been judged, he is in torment, Lazarus has been judged, he is in Abraham's bosom, the chasm is such no man can cross, upon death you are judged, you know where you will spend eternity. Judgment day is the end of the world and all men who are alive on earth will be judged and given immortal bodies and sent to the new earth or hell.
The day you die you are judged and know your eternal destiny. What you are saying is those in Abraham's bosom still fear the judgment day and those in torment are still planning their defense to present before God to get into heaven.


Heaven is for the spirits of righteous men but the new earth will be for those with immortal bodies, where we will do what God has always intended for men to do, live with God in an atmosphere of pure love.
So you are saying that the spirits of righteous men will not be given immortal bodies? Again, where does the Bible say these things you are asserting. I just don't see it in there.


Heaven is for the spirits of righteous men, as hades is the place of the spirits of wicked men, the new earth the eternal abode of the righteous, Rev.21:1-4; is where we will live with our immortal bodies. Hell is where the wicked will go with their immortal bodies for all of eternity.

Laura next post lets just go with one question and please give your full explanation of what you believe the text to say, it will make things easier. I will answer all your questions and I realize you can't see some concepts but that doesn't mean they are not there.

Respectfully